That's interesting. Saw it before. And I have heard the argument before. It was set forth by Billy Graham in fact on Larry King as is quoted in Ian Murray's Evangelicalism Divided. And we built a statue commemorating his soteriology! A soteriology, that by the "Biblicist" standard is nothing short of heresy.
Another question that this raises is the obvious ecumenical spirit that tags along with the Arminian/Calvinist divide. Two different soteriologies can be derived from the BFM. Which is all good and fine until the discussion becomes: just how is one saved?
Albert Mohler has said that no one will go to hell for another's sin. Though he equivocates on the matter, the inherited guilt of Adam, again, is a non-negotiable, and absolutely necessary for an orthodox soteriology. He signed and approved in his work on the 2000 BFM, of the reversal of the order of condemnation from the 1925 BFM, to what is now the BFM's definition of the nature of man after the fall since the 1963. (A bit of a culpability factor working there, maybe?) The denial at any level of the doctrine of original sin is foundational to all sorts of error, giving us notable myths like the age of accountability and LFW, as well as a labyrinth of sacramentalist religions.
You can see what I believe is at the heart of the world's confusion here, along with the rest of the series which began here. It is not them, it is we who allow falsehood and will not defend truth from error that gives them the right of dissent. Remove the strictures of total depravity and God's sovereignty in election, his drawing grace will fall, and there will remain only the conditions of man's vain imagination as the means of salvation. What is the difference between the typical SBC'er and an Oprah disciple if it is by synergistic means that people come to the knowledge of God? If in the end salvation requires some measure of man's effort, then the Oprahites or Osteenites for that matter, are justified in any scheme.
Osteen is the son of a former Southern Baptist. But, is that where he got his theology?
Perhaps, just perhaps, as Billy Graham said, "They may not know the name of Jesus but they know in their hearts that they need something and I think that they are saved and they are going to be with us in heaven." Oh, we might well say that we are credobaptists and all the while deny that we are a credal people. However, according to some heros of the Southern Baptists, when it comes to the final assessment it might just be that God does judge men in deference to the light that they have and what they did with it,
and not by the standards of the only way. A Southern Baptist and fellow member of Sunnyside Baptist in Cheyenne, told me just that. Wonder's where he learned it?
There are some who do not bow to the hero icons, this one for example:
Nor would such stalwarts as Tom Ascol, or the inimitable James White.
Take notice Billy Graham's position has not changed since 1960. A mere three years before the 1963 BFM was finalized by former President of the SBC, Herschel H. Hobbs, a semi-Pelagian. What should be clear is that the accomodation of such heros while ostensibly forbidden, the BFM cannot exclude. One must question how Billy Graham could be honored by the SBC with a statue,
and reject the central tenant of soteriology in the SBC, salvation in the name of Jesus only.
The final assessment is that it matters what integrity we have in the eyes of the world when we make criticisms and expect credibility. What the world sees is a house doctrinally divided and unsure of its doctrinal foundations and history. What once passed the muster of love of truth in the Conservative Resurgence, must again come to the fore and reestablish the Protestant doctrines upon which the SBC was founded. But, as long as it holds to Romanistic free-will and humanistic goodness inherent in man, as opposed to the great hinge pin of the Protestant Reformation, the bondage of the will, and total human depravity, it will continue to feed the world the excuses it needs to not heed the call of repentance.
The only true revival will come when the truth is once again the SBC signature song. As Spurgeon said and I paraphrase, "These doctrines are the Gospel." Let the Doctrines of Grace be proclaimed and the Gospel will be reclaimed. It will cause hate and division, true enough, even attempts by the Secret 9 to subvert the truth. No matter. Truth is our life, is risen indeed and cannot die again.
Thursday, July 10, 2008
Found At Provocations and Pantings
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Labels: All we need is love, Bangerang, Billy Graham, Blog Spotting, building bridges, Calvinism, Hobbs, Oprah, Osteen, Resurgence, Revival, SBC, Secret Nine, Thomas Twitchell, Timmy Brister
Wednesday, June 25, 2008
Musical Interlude featuring Lynyrd Skynyrd
This song is dedicated to people in church leadership who just cannot seem to tell the truth about much of anything...
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Labels: Funny, Satire, Secret Nine
Sunday, June 22, 2008
The Root of the SBC's Problems
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Labels: callin' it like it is, Regenerate Church, SBC, Secret Nine
Wednesday, May 28, 2008
Conspiring Theories Breathe The Same Air And Inflame Passion
Having survived a near death experience hole free though a little singed I received another communication from a rat,
not a mole, but a rodent nonetheless. The information is disturbing and will serve as an appetizer to a review of the subterranean message of the commentary on The Baptist Faith and Message penned by Hx3.
I don't want to fan the flames and spread the fire of conspiracy or nuttin, but it is curious, is it not, that the dualism aspect of Hx3's theology is all so central to this mystical group?
Speaking of the Secret Nine
why is this pamphlet no longer listed as available from the NAMB? Or, is it?
The following is not supported by any evidence, but, just suppose that the CP can be found in this symbol:
Note the handshake, universal symbol of cooperative agents, and what if CP is really code for covert police, hmmmm?
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Labels: Antichrist Church, callin' it like it is?, Freemasonry, SBC, Secret Nine
Friday, May 9, 2008
The Long Nineticles of Doom
This was left at my door, on the back was this:
Of course you recognize the symbol of the Sacred (Secret) Nine. I am concerned about the diagram. It appears there may be counter-intelligence afoot.
If you see this man around, be aware, he is Sicilian. Perhaps a....what's that... shh... better run now...
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Labels: Monkey Business, Secret Nine
The Secret Nine Exposed!!
At great personal risk, one of our operatives has come into possession of the following document, apparently written with a quill dipped in blood (eeee-ooooooo, gross.)
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Minutes of the regular meeting of the Secret Nine
Roll Call: Mossad Agent Menachem, Jesuit Representative Gustav, KKK Local Chair Hank T., Illuminati Jim, Trilateral Commissioner Starks, The Oprah, Sheik Abdul, Ryan Seacrest, and FBC Deacon Hope.
Chairman Illuminati Jim called the meeting to order at 7:30. Meeting held in the secret back chamber of IHOP, in an undisclosed town in Georgia.
Opening prayer to Ja-Bul-Lan led by Deacon Hope. Refreshments brought by Gustav, which nobody would eat…again.
Old Business:
Hank T. reported that the Information Committee is continuing its Truth Campaign against two local ministers. Latest rumors include the accusation that pictures of naked men are posted at their website.
TLC Starks reported that the Free Speech Committee has been unsuccessful in shutting down The Reformed Mafia blog.
Not only that, but the RM has added three new members since Operation Sovereign Grace began at the local First Baptist Church. The latest one, we have no information about. He’s just called The Mole. After much discussion about the Mole’s identity, Deacon Hope assured the Nine that this cannot possibly be a member of the FBC in question.
Abdul noted that the minor rebellion at a particular FBC church in town has been effectively crushed. Everyone else seems to be falling in line as expected.
New Business
Erratic behavior has been noted at the accursed Incrediblog. The motif was recently changed, from some dopey super-hero thing, to Star Trek, and now it has apparently changed again. No action was taken, as the consensus is that the author of that blog is insane and harmless.
Also, a recent Reformed Mafia post managed to bring in traffic from several other authors of offensive and dangerous websites. The Oprah will use her considerable resources to track all of these down and ensure their silence.
Ryan unveiled plans to cause a new tsunami off the coast of the Philipines this coming July. Unanimously approved.
Meeting adjourned. Next meeting will be at Hank’s house, where we will BBQ.
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